[Reno massaged his temples, trying to remember as well. He wasn't there either, but he'd heard about it.]

I think... I think we were those Heroes. I mean, the ones who went back. There was some kinda crisis then, too, and they met Kalki. But was that thousands or was that another time in the past...? Gods, it was so convoluted. But somehow or other, I think we accidentally screwed stuff up with Kalki 'cause there was that accident, an' that's when we found out about Palitutu...

But it couldn't have been that early since Palitutu and Queen Sarah were still alive.

... [He paused ruefully.] I wish Jack were still around. He was way better at the whole time-shifting thing.